r/okbuddycinephile • u/TheVoidScrolledBack • 7h ago
Poverty was reserved only for Tobey Maguire
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u/bitter_personw 7h ago
Tom's Spidey stole all that shit
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u/Jevus_himself 7h ago
The more he steals the more he saves
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u/TicklemyPickleMan 6h ago
He steals and he saves
And he saves more than he steals
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But he does steal
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u/2011StevenS 5h ago
It only takes 40 flight hours to become a pilot. If stealing was flying, our boy would be top gun for sure
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u/CUMLOVINGBOISLUT 7h ago
He makes EVE do freelance programming and OF mommy asmr so he's loaded to the max
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u/WhippingTheLammasASS 6h ago
You think she would do asmr joi? Asking for a friend.
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u/slavelabor52 6h ago
You have forgotten the face of your father
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u/KeyRing313 4h ago
This is the 3rd tower reference I've seen today, I think Ka is telling me its time for a rereading.
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u/itspsyikk 6h ago
He rents out all his equipment he stole from Stark and Happy to AI rendering farms.
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u/AvocadoMysterious805 5h ago
Hey, can you give me the link for the OF stuff? It's for research purposes.
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u/420_69_Fake_Account 6h ago
It’s all Stark tech, he’s dead so he don’t need it.
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u/Thick-Sundae-6547 6h ago
I thought about what Peter did on the last
Movie. Maybe the aunt had life insurance and his is living off that.But also, He missed the part , is he going to college or not?
Sure he gets the tech from Stark. But do they give the tech to Spiderman? Because nobody knows who Peter is anymore.
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u/No_Extension4005 5h ago
Probably just remembered Spiderman was tight with Tony. They just forgot who he was.
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u/piratebuckles 3h ago
Yeah Prob had a fund set up just for "Spiderman" that He could pull from at anytime no real name needed.
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u/Just_Breakfast6327 5h ago
I could be wrong but I thought the way the wish worked every single person forgot Peter Parker existed. Including anyone who would have given him life insurance from Aunt May. He's a Ghost.
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u/Kolby_Jack33 5h ago edited 5h ago
Yeah, his school records also got wiped which is why he was shown studying to get a GED at the end of NWH.
Although I'm not totally sure how he would rectify getting around his lack of a birth certificate or proving he's an American citizen. Surely there is some kind of procedure someone can undertake to rectify being a non-existent person of record, as rare as that situation would be. Can someone go into a records office and say "hello, I was raised on a compound in the woods by a cult and thus there is no record of my birth or existence at all, but I am obviously a real person standing before you so I would like to officially establish my identity so I can live a functional life, please. What forms do I fill out for that?"
Edit: I got curious so I looked it up. If there is no record of your birth and no other record of your existence in any government office, the US government can make for you a "Letter of No Record" sating "hey, this person has no records at all but they are a real person and we don't think they're lying about who they are, so they can use this letter in place of a birth certificate for acquiring ID or other documents." Neat!
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u/LumpyJones 5h ago
Fun story time. My parents were idiots and didn't get me a birth certificate. I was born in the doctors office and for whatever reason my parents being crazy hippies didn't want me any more in the system than I already was. I did have a SS card and a state ID (back in the 80s/90s it was easier to get those) and I had to go through a billion fucking hoops to prove i existed, including tracking the doctor down and getting an affidavit that i was born there. Which took some convincing as it had been 20+ years at that point.
So its possible, but took years of headaches and bureaucracy to resolve - and thats me having at least a few pieces of the puzzle to work with. The real question is did the spell wipe out his SSN?
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u/Alderan922 4h ago
The us goverment in marvel probably does have more procedures for non existent records considering how half of the human population vanished and reappeared one day.
It’s not insane to believe that considering supernatural occurrences happen almost weekly, people popping out of nowhere isn’t that far fetched.
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u/g_puchodang 7h ago
Tobey's apartment is Goated. No tech, just a police scanner and grit.
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u/DefinitionSuperb1110 7h ago
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u/ilyNIGHTMARES 6h ago
“Hi? what’s hi? Can I spend it?”
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u/DefinitionSuperb1110 6h ago
My favorite one is where he kind sings it.
"Reeeeeeeennnnnnt?"
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u/Exotic-Eggplant1914 5h ago
You'll get your rent after you fix this goddamn door!
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u/Silo-Joe 6h ago
No toilet either. Probably an SRO apartment with a communal bathroom in the hallway.
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u/TheEdgeofGoon 7h ago
They fucking gentrified being poor.
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u/Accomplished-Sir4932 6h ago
They gentrified being old and out of fashion too. When is the last time you saw an old woman that wasnt hot, sexy, modern or powerful? You can’t even be a regular ass old woman anymore
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u/dexters_trap_house 6h ago
The oldest women are allowed to be is Mary Steenburgen in Step Brothers circa 2008.
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u/ComradeJohnS 5h ago
what about the grandma who delivered the dirty messages back and froth from The Other Guys directed by adam mckay who also made step brothers….
Adam Mckay single handedly supplying the old lady roles in hollywood
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u/Horror_Response_1991 6h ago
My god you’re right
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u/soozerain 5h ago
Well tbf this was all a plot by Jon favreau so he could have a kissing scene with Marisa Tomei.
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u/kates_ego 5h ago
As an old ass woman, can confirm. Gods forbid a girl enjoy a Werther's now and then.
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u/Apophthegmata 4h ago
You see, when I was growing up at the time of the Wars of the Medes and Persians and when I went to college just after the Hundred Years War and when I was bringing up my children during the Korean, Cold, and Vietnam Wars, there were no women. Women are a very recent invention. I predate the invention of women by decades. Well, if you insist on pedantic accuracy, women have been invented several times in widely varying localities, but the inventors just didn’t know how to sell the product. Their distribution techniques were rudimentary and their market research was nil, and so of course the concept just didn’t get off the ground. Even with a genius behind it an invention has to find its market, and it seemed like for a long time the idea of women just didn’t make it to the bottom line. Models like the Austen and the Brontë were too complicated, and people just laughed at the Suffragette, and the Woolf was way too far ahead of its time.
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But all that aside, here I am, old, when I wrote this I was sixty years old, “a sixty-year-old smiling public man,” as Yeats said, but then, he was a man. And now I am over seventy. And it’s all my own fault. I get born before they invent women, and I live all these decades trying so hard to be a good man that I forget all about staying young, and so I didn’t. And my tenses get all mixed up. I just am young and then all of a sudden I was sixty and maybe eighty, and what next?
Not a whole lot.
.... And I wonder what was the use. Sometimes I think I might just as well give the whole thing up. Sometimes I think I might just as well exercise my option, stop short in front of the five-barred gate, and let the nazi fall off onto his head. If I’m no good at pretending to be a man and no good at being young, I might just as well start pretending that I am an old woman. I am not sure that anybody has invented old women yet; but it might be worth trying.
---- Ursula K. Le Guin, Introducing Myself , 1992
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u/DrPikachu-PhD 5h ago
I mean, real tho. Luxury goods are cheaper than they've ever been meanwhile cost of living is the higher. It's not the one time purchase of a monitor that's squeezing families, it's the weekly cost or rent and groceries
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u/3Grilledjalapenos 4h ago
I really like this approach to explaining the issue. I tried to explain why guitar as a hobby was easier for me to afford now, as opposed to ten years ago, and it really is that the next available substitute that appeals to me isn’t actually much cheaper. The things that are squeezing me are the items like utilities and rent, that are just meant to keep you alive.
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u/Ok-Lead-4285 4h ago
these are not bottom price bargain monitors, they're state of the art + he has a nanotech 3D printer + top of the line asus gaming laptop in the same shot.
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u/Worldly-Ingenuity843 3h ago
Did they ever explain where he got those printers? I don't think that's something that can be bought. Did he steal them from one of Tony's stash?
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u/00wolfer00 3h ago edited 3h ago
They don't touch it at all in the movie, but he's got contacts in the new avengers, access to whatever tech survived in his old apartment and we can handwave that he knew about a Stark cache, which he can take since Stark won't need it anymore.
EDIT: actually outside of the 3d printer thing that was in his old apartment, the rest could easily be scavanged or bought 2nd hand cheaply and fixed up.
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u/Billybob35 5h ago
I think the movies now want Peter to be middle class.
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u/Vordeo 4h ago
Yeah tbf it's kinda hard to square him being perpetually broke and him having access to a crapload of tech, including advanced AI and access, somehow, to every camera in NYC.
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u/Ill-Maize 7h ago
No way TH could have afforded that setup with current memory prices
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u/PamIsley42 7h ago
In the MCU, the creator of AI assistants also created a completely clean self sustainable energy source, so AI if it exists in universe like it does irl, probably didn't cause a resource or memory shortage
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u/Complete-Pangolin 6h ago
That the MCU basically solved our biggest problems as a species in 2008 is so wild
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u/JackieBee_ 5h ago
The reason we haven’t encountered aliens in the real world is yet is that solving the energy crisis is the tutorial level. Once we do that we’ll get our first alien invasion boss fight.
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u/TalesOfMetamorphosis 5h ago
The people watching the stream are like "What the fuck type of challenge run is this? They're gonna get DESTROYED on level 1"
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u/frockinbrock 6h ago
I don't think that was the biggest problem on its own; the world can still eat itself with greed, even when solutions exist. lol this is probably a terrible place to discuss it though
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u/No_Extension4005 5h ago
And while people don't remember who Spiderman is; they should still remember he was good friends with Iron Man.
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u/KiwieeiwiK 6h ago
That doesn't make the actual hardware cheaper though
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u/flyingdoorhandle 6h ago
What are you trying to say, yes it does.
Are you trying to say to physically manufacture it, it costs the same?
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u/ctan0312 6h ago
It’s expensive in real life because the demand drastically outweighs and has been outpacing the supply. AI has been around forever in the MCU and is also apparently very efficient since everyone has one
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u/WhasHappenin 7h ago
He probably grabbed a bunch of broken shit from the trash and rigged it up himself.
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u/CUMLOVINGBOISLUT 6h ago
or a villain crashed a Truck carrying DDR5 and he picked a few (boxes) up without anyone noticing
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u/Accomplished-Dog2481 5h ago
It was actually stated when he and Tony met first time. Dude scrapped junkyards and repaired everything. Nowadays I think it's not so important to make Peter poor idk.
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u/Bar-Cold 6h ago
One thing that the MCU is hammering home better than the other spidey films is that peter is a genius. It makes perfect sense he would have this setup being spider-man in the year 2028.
Now where he got all that stuff…who knows. I don’t hate the idea that he dumpster dove and or made it out of cheap/spare parts. This is likely the explanation anyway
“tony stark built this in a cave with a box of scraps!!!”
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u/Better-Hope-4227 5h ago
I haven't seen the movie yet so no clue if he has anything crazy but, just form this image, he easily could've bought this shit off FB market place or craiglist. Its a laptop, a table, 2 monitors, and a 3d printer(?). Even new, this isn't like a TON of money in a world without data centers causing shortages. Considering he could build the shit he did in earlier movies, I dont think him fixing broken stuff he got cheap off craigslist is ridiculous. Normal people do that all the time.
I mean, doesn't look he's toby levels of poor($20 was a lot for toby) but he could easily be flipping other things like laptops he fixed to to pay for it.
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u/Ok-Championship2397 4h ago
Tom is cosplaying poor with his immaculate Galaxy flip and weekly flowers and next gen workshop and huge apartment (even if it might have asbestos in it). The raw vulnerability of OG Parker feels like a symptom of being poor. The worry, eating at you self-doubt, never feeling like you can trust the ground under your feet. The kind of poor where a piece of cake has huge meaning.
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u/Exotic-Eggplant1914 5h ago
$20 was a lot more money in the early 2000s to be fair. For Tom that's 2 Little Caesars pizzas, Tobey could get like 4.
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u/OperationRoutine4808 5h ago
The most expensive thing in that photo is his rent, by quite a bit
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u/bofoshow51 6h ago
“Thanks for saving my tech shop from those armed robbers Spider-Man! Here, have this CPU on the house!”
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u/JohnTomorrow 5h ago
Its explained somewhere that the Snap tanked the world's economy, so tech is technically way cheaper than in reality. Plus they have superheroes that can stop psycho CEOs from trying to murder half the planet.
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u/Silverjeyjey44 6h ago
That's why Sam Raimi's Spiderman was more relatable
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u/leave_me_alone_peeps 4h ago
This, it felt like a guy becoming superhero, you're relating to the person. For TH spiderman, it feels like a superhero is trying to portray a normal person. The struggles are so unreal.
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u/ViKO15951 4h ago
The point of Tom's Spiderman is that he is a Spiderman that got his powers way before truly becoming Spiderman, the first two movies are mostly setup in the grand scheme of the character for Peter to have everything he needed and wanted, and then lose everything in an instant due to his own lack of responsability, the Peter from the first three movies isn't the Peter we know, the one at the end of the third one is, even him hand sewing his new spider suit in the new movie despite still having the high tech suit is a show of Peter choosing to be responsible and not get the answer given to him by others.
His focus wasn't being relatable as much as it was being the one to actually have to choose his responsibility (reminder that Peter was the one who first said that in the comics, not Ben) and tbf, I feel like having a seemingly great future in front of you before finishing college and then being smacked with reality and being screwed over due to choices that you didn't pay too much mind to when you were younger are more realistic to current day.
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u/FadeToBlackSun 7h ago
Andrew lived at home.
Tom's movies are made by Disney and they don't want people to realise what being poor actually is.
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u/IT_Grunt 6h ago
Being poor is not safe for kids to witness.
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u/Temporary_Permafrost 6h ago
"Too political"
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u/s8rlink 2h ago
Why is the white superhero the only poor? That’s woke, Zendaya is rich, his fat friend is rich, but the white man keeps getting trampled! Peter Parker represents how we are being displaced in America /s (hopefully obvious but you never know)
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u/deftPirate 5h ago
Doesn't he move into a leaky asbestos storage attic?
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u/flaming_burrito_ 5h ago
Yeah, that place sucks. It doesn’t even look like it’s supposed to be a room, it’s a room that was being used for storage down the sketchiest hallway in the building that he specifically takes because no one goes up there. That shot makes it look nicer than it was when you pan around the whole thing
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u/Dinonaut2000 6h ago
I don’t know, I think it makes sense in universe. NYC has been ravaged by multiple disasters and the rent is probably in the trash. Plus, he really fixed up the place he moved into. Also, if Aunt May had a will, I’m sure he has enough money to cover rent. Plus, he’s spider-man and a genius, I’m sure he has some way to make ends meet.
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u/whopoopedthebed 5h ago
The world forgot who Peter Parker is so I don’t think he could have gotten anything willed to him.
However Happy does say he “knew May through Spider-Man”, which I take to mean all the Avengers related Spidey stuff is still remembered, they just don’t remember who is under the mask. So it’s entirely possible he still has access to Stark tech via those old connections.
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u/nopitynopepants 5h ago
Aunt May died before Strange did the spell. The spell didn’t legally erase Peter’s existence, and since May likely had a will, he’d still get an inheritance
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u/JustHereSoImNotFined 3h ago
Anything in the world that had to do with Peter Parker was slightly altered to be something else. The spell literally made it as if he didn’t exist. Strange said that point blank and you can see in No Way Home extended version and BND intro all the events that Peter was erased from.
The more likely explanation is that Spiderman was given some Stark Tech after Tony died because they still remember he and Spiderman fighting together. Peter Parker literally does not exist to anyone after the spell.
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u/Spider-Man98 6h ago
Idk Andrew lived with his aunt because he couldn't afford to live on his own 💀
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u/grapejuicesushi 3h ago
also tasm2 shows aunt taking extra nursing shifts along with being a waitress to make ends meet while this mf genius is only being spiderman. I don't have many gripes with tasm 2 like a lot of other folks do but I really wish they showed the other problems with being Peter Parker than his relationship. I can understand why tom's spiderman is constantly just being spiderman but tasm was supposed to be more grounded.
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u/FlyingPig_Grip 6h ago
I was disappointed tom hollands Spider-Man abandoned a classic spider trait- an interest in photography. I thought that might be a joke in no way home. Like he doesn't give a shit about photography which was his primary money maker back in the day
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u/Silo-Joe 6h ago
I guess Peter wouldn't be able to sell Spider-man photos when everyone posts Spider-man photos to their social media feed.
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u/ValeriusPoplicola 4h ago
the interest in photography could just morph into Peter being a youtuber who luckily happens to catch Spiderman from cinematic angles
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u/OperationRoutine4808 5h ago
They should’ve had him running a monetized spider man social media fan account and I’m not joking. It would’ve been a great gag and a way to update the selling photographs to a newspaper thing
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u/icedteaandtacos 5h ago
I’m a long time comics collector and this has been so irrelevant for so long that I completely forgot about it.
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u/Zananax 6h ago
I love all three but when it comes down to it I think Andrew's had the most potential. Sadly it was cursed in the womb by Sony executives.
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u/Arcanemageop 7h ago
One of the things I was missing in BND was any short of explanation of how is Peter getting money or where does it come from, I assume is what aunt May left him but would have been cool to get a confirmation.
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u/Pumpkinmonkey69 7h ago
If Peter didnt develop an Algorithm which automatically daytrades the best stocks then in don’t believe in his 270 iq
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u/_killing_floor_ 6h ago
why bother with algorithm when you can just game polymarket or kalshi equivalent moronic sites with some random ass spidey bets
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u/Green-Cricket-8525 go back to the club 6h ago
If either of those sites exist in the MCU they would just kick you off like they do now when you win too much on their
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u/Chev_350 7h ago
They are probably assuming the audience would join the dots. He is a genius, build an inhibitor on a boat (with a box of scraps?)
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u/Bar-Cold 6h ago
Not really “with a box of scraps”. The punisher coincidentally had all the (seemingly rare) parts peter needed to get his hands on in order to make it.
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u/Hopeful-Bed2414 7h ago
Marvel turned peter into Tony
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u/TheLowlyPheasant The Fanatic 6h ago edited 6h ago
In the comics Peter is on the same genius level as Pym, Stark, Banner etc. with only Richards really being above him significantly.
What bothered me way more was MJ figuring out what project he was working on based on a single esoteric screen. Helping him find the source of a minor electrical field was really clever as it was smart but not ridiculous for somebody unfamiliar with a project to come up with. Then she looks at his screen and based on the fact that she "almost majored in biochemistry" she instantly understood the purpose of Bruce Banner's DNA inhibitor device
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u/AsgeirVanirson 5h ago
MCU Peter is 100% a scientific genius same as the comics/other movies (maybe more scientifically gifted than either Andrew or Tobey's version.)
MCU Peter invented his own (praised by Tony for how high quality they were) web fluid and shooters. MCU peter has always been a scientist/science student.
His character is smart enough in universe that no one questioned him winning a ridiculously valuable internship with Stark Industries where he worked directly with Tony Stark.
Like we know it's the powers that earned it, but everyone else had to believe it was just based off his intelligence and talent as a scientist. No one expressed surprise that he could win such a thing. Not even slight surprise.
MCU peter has spent much of his screen time in team ups and facing major threats on bigger scales. His 'combat' record makes his intellectual aspects smaller in comparison, but he's absolutely written as second to Banner and Stark only because he is still like 17 and the other 2 have decades of further education and study + super brains of their own.
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u/Unfair_Web_8275 5h ago
Spiderman needs his own “Iron Man 3” in terms of movies that focus on the character over the action.
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u/Hopeful-Bed2414 6h ago
Did peter get tech and resources from Tony in the comics?
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u/TheLowlyPheasant The Fanatic 6h ago
Not outside of times when he has been an Avenger. Classic Peter was taught a lot in college by two of his eventual villains Doctor Octopus and The Lizard but was also largely a self-taught genius who developed the web slingers and fluid completely on his own. There are times in the comics where spider-man is held out of fights to help Richards and Stark do the super science that will really save the day
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u/therealkami 5h ago
Yeah theres been times Reed Richards calls on him for science problems just cause he knows Peter can keep up and offer fresh perspectives.
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u/katherizons 6h ago
peter was definitely never a genius who built anything cool before
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u/Iokua113 5h ago
Yeah, he definitely didn't design or develop a revolutionary non-Newtonian fluid and a way to pressurize into storage, as well as a wrist mounted device that launches into a variety of shapes allowing him to use it to swing around the city like Tarzan on vines through the jungle at the age of 15 using nothing but a home chemistry set and some parts he found in a dumpster. Nope. He definitely didn't do that.
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u/getrekt01234 7h ago
You forgot Stark still left a lot to Peter Parker. A lot of it was most likely damaged during his fight in NWH but you could consider enough of it survived for him to still use.
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u/JustHereSoImNotFined 3h ago
The most likely explanation is this. Idk why people keep saying inheritance from Aunt May. He can’t get an inheritance as he literally doesn’t exist anymore
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u/blue23454 6h ago
Tbf Garfield was still in HS wasn’t he? TASM2 he was graduating and still living at home, he owned exactly none of that.
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u/mrbishopjackson 6h ago
To be fair, Andrew Garfield was still in high school and living with Aunt May in these films.
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u/DomonKashu717 6h ago
Tom’s spidey probably got all his tech from Happy after Tony died.
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u/Furrocious_fapper 7h ago
When we first see Peter in the MCU he had just dug some shit out of the trash.
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u/OCKWA 7h ago
He also had a supercomputer and a whole loft in BND.
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u/porkchopsensei 6h ago
The loft was explicitly an old room abandoned because it was filled with asbestos. The computer can be chalked up to being a tech genius and building it himself, which Holland's Peter has always been excellent at
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u/Silver_Situation_569 5h ago
He moved into that loft specifically because he wanted to move away from that neighbour who said hi to him once lol
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u/WhasHappenin 7h ago
He probably built the supercomputer out of junkyard parts himself and the loft was a storage room filled with asbestos.
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u/Tree_nan 7h ago
Tobey was affording a one bedroom by himself as a part time pizza delivery driver. Rent was prob $500. He wasn’t poor he just had no sense of interior design.
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u/Hopeful-Bed2414 7h ago
Anyone staying im a building where the landlord doesn't bother with interior design, means the person chose a cheap place since that is whst they could afford and they dint have financial power to demand better living conditions fro, the landlord
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u/Tree_nan 6h ago
Nah man that was just how buildings in NYC looked before the era of gray washing an entire apartment with cheap floors and cabinets and calling it “luxury”
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u/there_is_always_more Zack Snyder 6h ago
What about all the times the landlord was asking for rent lol
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u/JohnTomorrow 5h ago
Someone forgets that Holland's Spider-man doesn't actually live in that apartment for more than a minute in the movie. He moves into a leaky loft riddled with asbestos not long after the movie starts.
And let's not forget, this Peter is possibly the smartest Peter we've seen on screen, who's had access to tech far superior to what the other Peter's have access to, for far longer. He also specifically doesn't try to balance the Peter/Spider-man lifestyle, his sole focus is on being Spider-man. That frees up a lot of time and money spent doing other things, like enjoying life.
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u/ShaneKaiGlenn 6h ago
How did I just notice that Garfield's Spidey had a massive poster of a Vonnegut book cover. Mad respect.
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u/Starry-Gaze 4h ago
I like to think this goes back to Peters guerrilla science mentality, bro was smart enough to engineer several key technologies in his time as spidey that solved problems he was facing, i don't think its too wild to think he could have scavenged whatever he could and saved for the rest, difficult as that might have been.
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u/Muk-Bong 4h ago
Simple explanation: Tobey living alone. Garfield living with Aunt/Uncle. Tom living in another fucking time period where tech is more accessible. And he obviously didn’t buy it, he would have confiscated it from all the bad guys he took down
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u/PoopsMcScoots 6h ago
Why do I keep seeing this?
The difference is the new Spider-Man is an avenger.
I would hope he’s getting paid for that.
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u/mitvh2311 6h ago
Didn't Falcon have monetary issues in Falcon and Winter Soldier?
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u/DrPepperFanX 7h ago
Someone should study family income level to hot aunt correlation